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Michael

Great post. But can anyone recommend a software with which to measure statistics on typed words and sentences effectively, based on similar techniques as amazon have used?
Cheers in advances

Mike Wing

"I'm just wondering what would the graph have looked like if you would have plotted Gayatri Chakravarti Spivak on it..."

If you check Of Grammatology, Derrida (surprisingly, to me) comes in lower than Steven! Go figure...

John

Kharris makes a good point. For example, Constance Garnett is known for having simplified the texts of Dostoevsky and other Russian authors in her translations, which of course affects the statistics.

Michael

Text stats become more homogenous with novel writing because dialogue lowers the average words per sentence. For instance, "Yes / Hello / No" all count as complete, one-word sentences and occur frequently in dialogue. That is why Dostoevsky and Hemingway's average words per sentence are nearly the same even though the complexity of their writing differs dramatically.

Comparing Gladwell to Steven is easier since their works contain no dialogue, but with a novelist, a better comparison would probably be the standard deviation (or perhaps just the MEDIAN sentence length) rather than the average words per sentence.

PaulM

Interesting observations.

Perhaps the need reread to understand is related to a limit in the brain. Isn't the limit around 7-8 for the average person without memory training?

When I was reading this, I was thinking of idea of chunking. The strategy, not something you do after a big night out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chunking_(psychology)

Perhaps Gladwell and Godin are popular and sell well because their ideas are easily understood.

There is a perl module for determining lots of statistics.
http://search.cpan.org/~kimryan/Lingua-EN-Fathom-1.11/lib/Lingua/EN/Fathom.pm

An explanation of MS-Word report can be found here
http://www.brainbell.com/tutorials/ms-office/Word/Make_Sense_Of_Word's_Readability_Statistics.htm

And the readability test mentioned has got a wiki entry here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flesch-Kincaid_Readability_Test

Have Fun

Paul

John

If you're such a fan of Jameson, could you spell his first name correctly? Sheesh, man.

Stephane Grenier

That's a great analysis. I always believed it from an anecdotal perspective, but having real numbers definitely confirms it.

I think Robert Kiyosaki put it best when he said his writing wasn't the most eloquent but it was still one of the best selling. He writes his thoughts in clear and simple sentences. He makes it very easy to understand his message rather than convoluting it with extensive verbiage.

Of course I'm not saying to dumb it all down, just to write what you mean. A great book that I strongly recommend on how to do this is called "On Writting Well". You can read my review of it at: http://www.followsteph.com/2007/07/14/book-recommendation-on-writing-well/

Colin

Really interesting analysis! I'll try to write shorter sentences now.

B.J. Henderson

I like this idea of counting. It has legs. An author could cut all of his sentences in half and sell the result as the second edition.

An author could vary the lengths of sentences according to the Golden Ratio 1.6180339887498948482. For example, his mean sentence lengths could be 17, 27.5065778087482124194, and 44.506577808748212419225639951467.

An author could choose the text of a great book
and measure word length, sentence length, paragraph length, chapter length and document length. Then, for example, he could write the sentence lengths on ping-pong balls and pick the balls from a lottery device. This method would generate the numerics of the book, and the author could concentrate on content.

I believe that the content could also be generated numerically. Put all of the settings
such as war on ping-pong balls. Continue with the number of characters, genres, plots, etc.

With the draft written the author could proceed to editing which he could have his wife do. Of course he would need a geek for the computer work.

These numerical books could provide his income leaving him enough time to write his own book.

Voila!

cm

You're a published author, so please don't say that Foucault and Jameson are "literally on another planet."

They are not *literally* on another planet, unless there's something you know that I don't know about either life after death or Duke University.

Help stamp out the "literally" disease.

cm

Sorry about the literally gripe, it derailed me from the more important point of saying that this blog post rules the Earth with an iron fist. Not literally, but pretty close.

No, really--very interesting!

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