Sunday Morning Historicity

From Jeffrey Weiss's letter to the Times Magazine this morning, responding to Kevin Kelly's future of the book piece (Weiss is the head of Modern Art at the National Gallery Of Art):

Kelly's argument... possess a common flaw, which is expressed when the contents of books are routinely referred to as "information." books (and other forms of text) are, of course, far more than that.... Texts, which are not just objects but encounters, possess context: ideology, historicity, consciousness, form, not to mention body, material depth....

What does this really mean? Books convey consciousness whether they're digital or print. Last I checked ideology, historicity, context -- all these things are forms of information. And in fact, it's precisely this extra layer of context that's likely to be accentuated in Kelly's "universal library", as books become annotated by other readers and scholars, explaining the ideological baggage behind a given work, or its historical context (or its "historicity," as Weiss puts it.)
Look, there's a legitimate objection to Kelly's vision if it means that people simply stop reading books in a linear fashion and start exclusively reading remixed, annotated snippets, primarily because there are limits to the complexity of the ideas and experiences that one can convey in a snippet. But Kevin is enough of a student of technology and media to know that the old forms and conventions rarely end up getting eliminated by the new: we're still listening to the radio and watching movies despite the rise of television, still watching television despite the rise of the web, and still reading books despite all the media innovations of the twentieth century. What Kelly is saying -- I think -- is not that people will stop reading three-hundred page books from start to finish, but that they'll be able to augment that reading experience with all sorts of powerful new connnections and commentaries and, yes, "encounters."
The irony is here is that remixing, sampling, annotating and deconstructing texts is precisely what post-modern theory was supposed to be all about -- to expose the historicity and ideology, the context and consciousness of the original work. You'd think theorists of contemporary art would be embracing the universal library idea, not dismissing it.

Comments

[Robert Gable]

While agreed that new technology is generally additive, I'm a case where blogging (reading and writing) has completely replaced watching television. On the other hand, blogging seems to have had no impact on my reading of books.

[Brian O' Hanlon]

I put a question to Terence Riley, chief curator of MOMA, when he was giving a lecture here at Trinity College in Dublin, about his latest research into Architecture and the Written word. Terence talked about the great cathedrals of Europe being like encyclopaedia’s and gradually over the years information has gradually disappeared from buildings as we know them. He showed slides of

I asked Terence, what is a lecture but a spoken book. In the sense, that when books were very expensive, that it was cheaper for people to learn a whole book by heart and the lecture was the verbal form of a written book.

I asked him, if when the printing press was invented should lecturing as a practice have become redundant? His response was interesting, he related how new methods of information dispersal rarely, if ever, displaced existing ones. Rather it caused the old medium to be re-interpreted and continued to be used.

Terence gave several examples, like the transition from radio to TV interviewing. Suddenly, radio interviews started to sharpen their technique, to compensate for limitations in the TV form of the interview. Terence also mentioned the change from B+W movies to colour movies. B+W did not disappear, but became re-interpreted, and gained new meaning.

So his answer to my question, if lecturing as a means of dispersal of knowledge and ideas was redundant. His response was no, that in fact, the arrival of the printing press, meant that lecturing was re-interpreted and gained a new re-defined role for universities.

As far as I am aware, Terence is still working on his publication about architecture and literature. It should be any interesting work when it is finished. But at the moment, it is probably still in evolution, in the form of a lecture that Terence delivers to audiences all over the globe - in a semi-personal medium, that the lecture is.

Richard M. Stallman, the computer and free software pioneer spoke in depth about books and their technology at this conference hosted by the Council for the Arts in Britain.

Quote: “To explain what I think about these points I want to start by reviewing the history of books and of copyright because copyright and the technology of making books developed together.”

Transcript and audio recording available here:

http://www.artscouncil.org.uk/aboutus/project_detail.php?sid=6&id=39&page=2

Brian O’ Hanlon.

[Brian O' Hanlon]

Opps.

Left out a bit above....

He showed slides of Times Square in new york, where the buildings are almost entirely covered now by great big plasma screens at the like. He showed old B+W photos of buildings in Times square, when the advertisment and signage was kept to a minimum. He even, showed us these round phone-box like objects used in streets in paris, to try to regulate where posters could be placed, so they would not end up destroying the urban environment. That is when posters in paris, along with printing presses started becoming an industry, and threatened to destroy the city's beauty.

Brian O' Hanlon.

[Brian O' Hanlon]

Indeed, Martin Campbell Kelly in his book, From Airline Reservations to Sonic the Hedgehog, makes a point, that in 100 years time we might look at software creation, like we look at writing today. Everyone will be able to create their own software.

So I wonder if, in the case of writing, where it had to retreat to isolated islands off the coast of europe, where monks memorised and transcribed books. Is there a similar parallel in software, where it is just produced on islands at the moment, in relative isolation? Is Richard M. Stallman, similar to one of those monks, those many years ago, who produced the book of kells, now housed in Trinity college in Dublin, Ireland?

More on this here:
http://www.stevenberlinjohnson.com/2006/05/can_we_please_k.html#comments

Brian O' Hanlon.

[Brian O' Hanlon]

Just read Bill Thompson's piece here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5018998.stm

Okay, I really need to say a final few words in closing. of the commentators here are very well respected, educated and accomplished people. Those people are not the best qualified to understand an aspect of this discussion I fear. A voice should be given to the down-trodden, the under achievers, or merely wasted potential. Of which I count myself a member.

"One of those rumbling arguments that betrays a deeper discontent is going on within the loose collection of blogs, newspapers and academic websites that has replaced public lectures and university common rooms as the space for public debate on matters of intellectual significance."

In a real sense, this opening paragraph by Bill Thompson --does-- highlight the point Terence Riley was trying to make. One needs to look at the wider historical context, to go back centuries before making such conclusions.

Bill Thompson, doesn't seem to realise, that history has seen these upheavels all before - universities in particular have been threatened by the printing press, and almost every form of technology that has come ever since.

Yet we still receive our degrees and diplomacy through, the medium of a lecture hall and a single speaker, transmitting a few bits into the ether, from an erect standing position on a lecture podium.

Although, there is an experiment at Sligo Institute of technology, in Ireland, where the students can choose to recieve their lectures on their iPod, or mobile multimedia phone!

Okay, I may as well come clean. Personally, --I like-- this medium, and hated my course in university, because it was so 'old school'. I would have appreciated some of the diversity new technology provides, when in college.

I left university without receiving my degree in architecture. I didn't like the environment of the university, or many of the groups and cliques that form in its corridors and assembly spaces. Since leaving university, I have try to educate my brain, through a mixture of internet and plain old-fashioned reading.

I would love to have access to a good library, but I don't, since without a degree, I don't even possess a library card. So perhaps the old systems do lock out people prematurely. Perhaps that needs to be the question, that is facing society today.

Brian O'Hanlon.

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[Jan]

First of all I love the idea of an all digital library with access for all, as I am continually baffled by the lack of access to information, specifically academic journals, and databases, to people who are not tied to a university or a research institution. However, Let us not forget that the internet is not as free and available to all as we imagine in our minds.

Second, there is something to be said for the actual object that is the book, that is lost in its transition from information container to just pure disembodied information. I am not just talking about books as aesthetic objects, but also touching on the ideas of embodied interaction that Paul Dourish brings up in his book "Where the Action Is." There is all sorts of information that is lost when we move to an all digital format, that only now people are beginning to appreciate, understand and study.

I think this is what Weiss was getting at when he said books are far more than “information,” a seemingly contradictory statement. There is knowledge to be gained from the alternative information coded into a physical artifact that is lost in its digital counterpart. This doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t push for the digital version of the Alexandrian Library, but it does mean that we should be aware of this other information and that we shouldn't burn all the books when we’re done scanning them.

[Brian O' Hanlon]

I like your response jan, you put some thought into it. thankyou. Anyone check out Richard M. Stallman here yet:

http://www.artscouncil.org.uk/aboutus/project_detail.php?sid=6&id=39&page=2

I cannot get over that thing about trying to publish an e-book about RMS. It really just goes to show you what people will attempt. If you ever want to read something else scary, check out that book written by Amazon.com employee no. 60 something. Forget the authors name. He basically gained and lost a fortune during the dot.com boom, and remains quite philosophical about the whole thing. He used to personally edit the front page of Amazon.com before it became automated. I mean, I have submitted a couple of articles to the front page of CG Architect.com. But I have interfaced directly by email with the editor in that case. Which doesn't happen anymore at the large web sites. It is automated by robots, who know you almost better than yourself. Stallman speaks about the bots, watching you on your computer too, like they did over copying facilities in old communist Russia. Stallman's point of view is important, about society striking a bargain, to get the best deal out of the copyright equation. We might have lost sight of that nowadays. Like the way, all music bands get from the contract is publicity really. And the publicity machine, is just providing more jobs for the people in the music publishing/contracting game anyhow. John Battelle's book about Search contains a lot of material about the idea of libraries on the internet. Yochai Benkler's Meredith Kip lecture at the Duke School of Law is interesting too - refering to much of the same thing as Stallman, about people providing information services, and editing them, re-distributing them etc, etc.
I included a couple of quotes here:

http://www.archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?p=51509#post51509

from Negroponte's book, Being Digital, where he talks about laws against the co-mingling of bits. All of this bothers me, because I have spent a lot of my life creating atom-based writing, art, poetry and work. Now that I am moving to bit-based media, I know it presents me with new opportunities, but new restrictions too, apparently. Negroponte makes the point several times in his book, that bits that can be re-used are much more valuable than bits that cannot. Hence Mikey mouse's bits are more valuable, than Forrest Gump's bits. Hence the 'Mikey Mouse' copyright act, which extended Mikey's bits almost indefinitely. The public will never get their mittens on Mikey's bits it seems. Like a painter, who paints on a traditional canvas, can kiss goodbye to his/her work, having sold that canvas once. Whereas, with this strict digital intellectual property control, you can sell the bits as many times as you like, and never give them away. Then you get something like Amazonbot TM AI software to package and distribute the bits, and what kind of world have you got? I urge people to investigate that book written by Amazon past editor. Can anyone remember what the book was called?

Brian O' Hanlon.

[H.A.Page]

Just a couple of points -- great post and debate. As a media grad student: the word "dynamic" has not been used here. We are shifting from static/passive to dynamic/engaged. Blogs are replacing passive forms of entertainment but more importantly, they are requiring thinking and social interaction and active engagement. The significance of new media is the potential to once again engage rather than passively receive messages (good for citizenship).
On the otherhand, books are more internally active yet engaging.

Stone architecture told a story, as did pueblo pottery and Cherokee weavings. These are all tools for engagement yet the communications potential of blogs is more bottom up, requiring less mediation and authoritive interpretation than the handwritten bible or stories in stone...
Cheers.

[Brian O' Hanlon]

I wrote some things just now, about those issues. Check out here:

http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2006/06/open_source_pol.php

Or here:

http://www.archiseek.com/content/showthread.php?t=4957

Brian O' Hanlon.

[Brian O' Hanlon]

One has to be careful nowadays, it seems with the word 'entertainment'. When you consider the story from New York Times, about online hunting mobs in China. I know that 'Big Brother' and Channel 4 reality TV shows are now classed as entertainment. But the reality TV show, as a genre, is about the TV company being worried about the threat posed by the more interactive medium of the Internet. So they are trying to retro-fit the 19th century technology of television, with an interactive capability, to maintain its market share. Which is why, I think Terence Riley's point about gothic cathedrals is useful. That gothic cathedrals may once have been broadcasting facilities used by the catholic church, to spread their message. In a couple of hundreds years time, people might look back at TV, as we now look back at cathedrals. We have no idea today, how people in the middle ages, perceived those messages inscribed in the walls of cathedrals.

Brian O' Hanlon.

[Brian O' Hanlon]

Useful analysis of current state of web here:

http://www.edge.org/documents/archive/edge183.html

by Jaron Lanier.

[Brian O' Hanlon]

Responses to Lanier's Edge essay here:

http://www.edge.org/discourse/digital_maoism.html#benkler

John Updike's comments were also reported by Bob Thompson in The Washingon Post ("Explosive Words", May 22, 2006, p C01):

"Unlike the commingled, unedited, frequently inaccurate mass of "information" on the Web, he said, "books traditionally have edges." But "the book revolution, which from the Renaissance on taught men and women to cherish and cultivate their individuality, threatens to end in a sparkling pod of snippets".

"So, booksellers," he concluded, "defend your lonely forts. Keep your edges dry. Your edges are our edges. For some of us, books are intrinsic to our human identity."

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