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Jacobs and Mumford go for a drive

Anyone who has read Emergence knows that I have a minor obsession with the feud between Lewis Mumford and Jane Jacobs that broke out after she published her Death and Life book in the early sixties. The other day I stumbled across this fantastic, amazingly wide-ranging interview that James Howard Kunstler (another big influence on me) conducted with Jacobs in 2000. She talks a little about her interactions with Mumford, who was the "Sky Line" architecture and urbanism columnist for the New Yorker for many years. I loved this little tidbit -- one of those stray personal details that changes your whole assessment of someone's work:

I had my doubts about him because we rode into the city together in a car. And I watched how he acted as soon as he began to get into the city. And he had been talking and all pleasant but as soon as he began to get into the city he got grim, withdrawn, and distressed. And it was just so clear that he just hated the city and hated being in it. And I was thinking, you know, this is the most interesting part.

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There's a more general revelation that Jacobs' anecdote speaks to. When I was writing about debates over children's television a few years ago, I was astonished when I started reading a lot of the scholarly literature on the relationship between children, television and violence. Partly because at least some of it was much more methodologically shoddy or tentative than I had been led to believe, but also because it was pretty clear that a significant body of experts who studied childhood and children, including some of the most prominent, really disliked childhood and children.

Deborah Blum's book Love at Goon Park, about Harry Harlow (the man who did the famous experiments with the rhesus monkeys, where they were presented a wire-mesh mother with milk and a 'comfort' mother that had no food), notes something similar about its subject, that a man who proved that love and affection were vital necessities was fairly incapable of love and affection in his own life. Similarly, Benjamin Spock turns out to have been completely unable to follow his own advice in his parenting. And so on.

There's clearly a powerful 20th Century tendency for some of the most seminal thinkers on a number of key subjects to have been drawn to their subject not by abiding love and excitement but by discomfort and distaste. What is more difficult to tell is whether this a result or a cause of their connection to their favored subject matter.

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